Radio host on killer's call: 'He doesn't sound like a raving murderer'

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EUGENE, Ore. - The caller to AnarchyRadio on KWVA in Eugene said he was a fan of John Zerzan's writing but had an issue he wanted to discuss.

"He does sound normal. He sounds soft spoken. He's articulate," Zerzan said Thursday, recalling the show in December 2011. "He doesn't sound like a raving murderer."

The caller "Greg" wanted to discuss Travis the chimp, a domesticated animal that mauled a Connecticut woman in 2009.

"Greg" was likely Adam Lanza, the 20-year-old Connecticut man who killed his mother before going to Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newton, Conn. There he killed 20 children and 6 adults before taking his own life.

"Some little thing he experienced was the last straw, and he was overwhelmed by the life that he had," the caller said. "It seems like everyone who knew him said how shocked they were that Travis had been so savage, because they knew him as a sweet child."

Listening back on the call, Zerzan said he realizes the caller was making parallels between the surprising act of violence of the chimp with people who flip out in society and harm others. | Listen to the call

"He's referring to this phenomenon - and then again later he ends up doing it," Zerzan said. "I mean it's just hard to grasp."

"His attacks can be seen entirely parallel to the attacks," the caller said back in December 2011. "Random acts of violence you bring up on your show every week, committed by humans, which the mainstream also has no explanation for. An actual human, I just don't think it would be such a stretch to say that he very well could have been a teenage mall shooter or something like that."

At no point in the conversation did the caller suggest he himself is contemplating any such act of violence.

"It's tough to wrap your mind around," Zerzan said, "but then when you realize you spoke with the guy or listened to the guy, it's all the more upsetting."

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